The average salary for Flight Attendant at Breeze Airways in the United States is $19.64 per hour, which is 14% below the national average. So they only want young, pretty, college girls and completely straight acting College guys? You think the fact they've bought a union card somehow empowers them with experience? To be honest, many college kids waste 4 years of tuition partying and enjoying life without learning anything substantial. Ahead of the launch, Forbes has an interesting story about the airline, after having spent some time with founder David Neeleman. I interviewed with them for cabin crew You must be enrolled at Utah Valley University full-time and maintain 3.0 GPA. Before we get into the details of Breezes pilot pay, and compare it to pay at other airlines, note that: First year Breeze pilots will make $36,300. My regional airline was a casualty of covid and Breeze seems like a great fit for someone like myself. 10 years have passed, the salary for new FO's are basically the same but now you need at least 10 year as FO to become a captain. They can earn $40,000-$60,000 a year, cut you open, and often perform your entire surgery under the direct and indirect supervision of attending physicians, who are more experienced and make more like $350,000 to $700,000 a year. Anyone with a college degree need not apply to be a flight attendant, while the only reason to become a pilot at Breeze is if you have no other options pay is roughly on par with regionals, while requirements are significantly higher. Apart from seeking to keep labor cost for the flight attendants lower than at airlines where seniority translates into wage escalation over time, not to mention other costs such as health insurance, which also becomes more expensive as most of us advance in age, or perhaps even pension costs, since the college interns are envisioned as moving on to other occupations after they age out - er graduate - another benefit of this innovative labor Apart from seeking to keep labor cost for the flight attendants lower than at airlines where seniority translates into wage escalation over time, not to mention other costs such as health insurance, which also becomes more expensive as most of us advance in age, or perhaps even pension costs, since the college interns are envisioned as moving on to other occupations after they age out - er graduate - another benefit of this innovative labor policy for flight attendants just so happens to be maintaining a youthful labor force as seniors depart from - er graduate - their internships and are replaced by freshmen (and women; the term fresh was intentionally omitted as that does not exactly present well given the context). There isn't enough information to know whether this is a good deal or a bad deal for the "part timers" potentially taking this work. Or the app crashing? Many young girls and guys want to be a flight attendant from 20-65 or older. Will they get pilots? Being paid $1200 a month automatically means that these FAs will have to be going to school as required AND probably working a second job to make ends meet. AFTER 4 YEARS YOUR CONTRACT IS OVER AND CANNOT BE RENEWED. Either talk about what JBs starting rates were when they launched or write this article in 5 years and Ill think differently. I'll have fries with that, thanks. Checking in Online. [Well] flash someone a message, Hey, we see youre flying today. People in that position have the option of not working and watching their skills and socialization go fallow, or working and having the first and last dollar of their income taxed at 70% and more under federal and state taxation. Be honest. The Breeze growth story is extraordinary. Thats exactly what I got from reading the article.. Hello Travis and thank you for the advice. Tons of excess pilot supply at the moment. *The whole "Home Monthly" is based on operational needs and must be scheduled 3 weeks prior. As a society we have started to forget the notion of a first job leading to better skills and better salary. The pay scale also looks good. Failing that, they were determined to not pay one dime more than their competition. I think these "internships" are not meant for people looking at a career as a flight attendant, but rather college age kids looking for a unique experience. Chances if you have surgery, you already have. FO Adam absolutely nailed it. Interesting model. I'm willing to bet that they will start service to Tampa. Having been a flight attendant I can tell you 15 days is not part time. That minimum guarantee is just that, a minimum. Pilots are incredibly overpaid as it is. S C A R Y. These numbers are minimums. I can't always trust a computer system to give me the perks or pay attention to the details I care about. Nevertheless, Breeze Airways is still on track to launch in the US in the first quarter of 2021. Can the U.S. not have just one decent, heck even mediocre, airline? Poor, poor me. AFTER 4 YEARS YOUR CONTRACT IS OVER AND CANNOT BE RENEWED. A union can negotiate for the whole group, unity makes force. Frankly Im somewhere in the middle here. 2. Failing that, they were determined to not pay one dime more than their competition. America is Great! At Breeze, we want to empower and support our Team Members so they can, in turn, empower and support our Guests every step of the journey. So theyre going to get experienced pilots (somewhat), that are already typed, with 1K hrs of 121 time (most likely), not have to pay initial or differences training for them, then pay them sh. We live in a free market economy. FAs are there for your safety: The younger the FA, the stronger they are. Customer service: Generally speaking, younger hires are friendlier and perkier. No Per Diem. Kendor gonna be thrilled when Breeze slashes wages by another third in exchange for company scrip redeemable for filet mignon sandwiches. Are they also going to have INTERN PILOTS to fuel this business plan? Expect most Breeze tickets this summer to cost well under $100 one-way When Breeze takes delivery of A220s later this year the airline will offer a first class, and expect those tickets to cost an extra $50-100 one-way Breeze will charge $20 for checked bags on flights under three hours Breeze won't charge change or cancelation fees Maybe it really is a part-time gig and would be a good fit for a great many people. Your feedback is important in helping us keep our community safe. In the meantime, if you don't like the pay, go see if another airline is hiring. On the small regional hops, inexperience is almost the default. Most people care about price and reasonably courtesy interactions. According to Neeleman: Ive shared my general thoughts on Breeze in the past, though based on these updates I have a few more things to add: Breeze should be launching operations shortly, becoming the second new US airline to launch in a matter of weeks. I interviewed with them for cabin crew You must be enrolled at Utah Valley University full-time and maintain 3.0 GPA. All applicants are required to have at least 1,500 total hours with 1,000 hours of. The average pilot will make more than this. It may be time to consider this for FAs too. They can't practice on their own. Is there a penalty for leaving early? the percentage of revenues it gets to keep, but because Spirit makes so little revenue on their high-cost investments they don't add up to much. Very clever. And before some smart guy points out to me that money is the reason for business, think back to business 101 golden ruletreat your employees the way youd like to be treated, and they will go above and beyond to make YOU more money. I expect a complete unbundling a la Spirit but with a much wider, more attractive range of upgrade interests for passengers. The old adage "Skilled labor isn't cheap - Cheap labor isn't skilled" still applies. Im a retired AA captain. There will be scheduled 1% pay raises on September 15, 2023, and September 15, 2024. I knew one guy that slept in the crew lounge and wandered DEN between trips. JetBlue First Officers: $89 an hour for year 1 and $130 an hour by year 6, Captains at JetBlue: $192 an hour to start, then a climb to $203 an hour by year. Profitability is how many dollars you make your investors, i.e. Low fares. Fly for less money and less stress. It's that, or FO Adam absolutely nailed it. Founded in 2018, Breeze Airways was advertised to become the Worlds Nicest Airline. Within a few years, she decided ENT surgery would be somewhat more interesting work and spent more than a decade training up at a resident wages that most union folk would scoff at. I'm a retired AA captain. In this post I wanted to cover a few of the highlights of this story, because there are some really surprising tidbits in here. How many people truly seek out higher prices for labor solidarity? Alaska Airlines Business Card Review: 70K Miles & Lufthansas Boeing 787 Business Class: Exactly As Expected. Landing June 2023. Does this really qualify as an "internship"? $1,200/mo if you have 15 days off and $1,400/mo if only 10. The company may credit new hires for any prior active years of service at another Part 121/135 air carrier or at a Mesa-affiliated pilot development program for purposes of calculating years of service for compensation, vacation, and retirement. Look down, "Your Highness". The estimated base pay is $3,842 per month. Reviews from Breeze Airways employees about working as a Flight Attendant at Breeze Airways. And a minimum of 40. But I guess everyone agrees that the duties of FAs are just going down day by day. US Air Force C-130H Delaware ANG Gemini Jets GMUSA114 Scale 1:400 IN STOCK. *The whole Home Monthly is based on operational needs and must be scheduled 3 weeks prior. Partying and hanging out with friends is what college students are supposed to be doing. Not a bad gig for a college student. Commuting from another city to work is almost impossible when on reserve. If Breeze employees get stock (I'm no insider but assume they will), and Breeze succeeds, they stand to make up later in capital gains potentially much more than they forego today in ordinary income. Can't believe. First Officer 1st year $89 and $130 in year six. more like the lived way of another religious group who is willing to do ANYTHING to keep control in place, . This business model shows that there is still tremendous opportunity to drive down wring out costs in flying. Very interesting article, first off there's a lot of people who only want to work part-time and find it exciting to go to different cities. Even the ME3 flight attendants start on a salary of around $3,000 per month plus housing and that is tax-free. And if I had a time machine I would go back and slap, poor, poor me silly and tell me to redirect my attention to the unlimited opportunities that were sitting right in front of me every day I drove across the lake and clocked into work. You get paid to sign up more people to pay union dues. I am a 40 year flight attendant at a legacy carrierand I llove my job. Unfortunately flying is something easy to be passionate about, and the industry takes advantage. . I don't know how Breeze expects to hire the best people who invest in the job at those wages. The sharpest students looking for a college education do not choose online learning only from a second-tier state school. It gets so tiresome. End stage capitalism here people. The founder of the airline is David Neeleman, the same guy behind JetBlue. The next step from airlines would probably challenge the FAA rule of 1 FA per 50 pax. If the pay is off the mark, the marketplace will correct this soon enough: pilots have options, and they know it. We are seeing a rapid deployment of apps and self-service kiosks to replace human workforce that don't bring $15 an hour value. I think the deal is too good to be true while others think it's chump change and will never work. Given the circumstances, the airline carrier will be in dire need of profits to recoup its initial investments. The founder of the airline is David Neeleman, the same guy behind JetBlue. Sounds like 4 years of indentured servitude! No we need less and need more solid middle class jobs. Log in or . And @Ben L. is still reminiscing the best cars in the world evar, made by 100% union labor in the 1980s. If the labor model is as stupid and exploitative as you seem to believe it is, it will fail. But make sure you ask the a million question, even the stupid ones BEFORE you sign the contract. There will be plenty of applicants! Breeze Airways Hello! Interesting, @EMBCAPTN. Cringing at the pay rateless than $100 per day and the hours can be brutal. Kendor coming out strongly in favor of Gilded Age company towns, I see. This article mentions and quotes minimum monthly guarantee, but fails to show the pay for picking up extra flying. It will be interesting to see how it plays out for sure. The concept does turn on to be "too good to be true" at least for me, just based on the insurance matter alone. Lots of opinion injected here but believe me they do not have a shortage of applications. We don't really know enough at this point. Also even the numbers you quote put them right in line (if not slightly above) the regional peers like SkyWest. I have no doubts in my mind that they'll increase it in time, but they need a few years of profitability under their belt first so they can justifiably offer higher hours/pay. This says to me that the quality of pilot they will be recruiting will be far from the best and hence, an airline to swerve. I liked the idea of them providing housing so I didn't have to scramble to find a crash pad or sign a lease somewhere. Opinions expressed here are the authors alone, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. 2) housing: I am curious what housing? I am quite happy Doctor Kendor didn't get too comfortable in some cushy union-enabled physical therapy gig offering an artificial pay scale and relentlessly reinforcing an artificial sense of self-importance. We are in search of the best and the brightest to join our dynamic team of aviation and people enthusiasts. Prime Minister/Moderator. Impressive to see how discussion of new airline business immediately decedents into anti-religious bigotry. Those were sure great times, what happened? It sounds to me like I am reading a history book about people who had to work in company housing, buying at the company store - another day older and deeper in debt. How far can this avalanche go where the top 1% get ever greater portions of the wealth, while the rest, well we dont think about them. Breeze vs. JetBlue pilot pay Here's JetBlue's Embraer 190 pilot pay scale: First officers are paid $89 per hour in year one, and $130 per hour in year six Captains are paid $192 per hour in year one, and $203 per hour in year six Pilots are guaranteed pay for 75 hours per month of flying In other words: