Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) (Unintelligible). Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I do have a complaint, finally. David Bagby wrote Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss, a best-seller in Canada in 2007, about his family's ordeal. We don't--we don't gush very much. any problem at all with them spending time with him, unlike my mother, Mr. SHEARS: I guess I just thought, well, they're kind of accusing her of, murder. Andrew, despite his obvious abilities, was turned down by every medical school in the country. And she followed Andrew to St. John's. After Newfoundland woman killed their son and grandson - SaltWire 2023 Cond Nast. Kind of panic sets in, I guess, and that's when it all hit the fan, I guess. I promise within the first five minutes you will be captured by it and you won't be able to tear yourself away. MORRISON: The rage was tempered with a yearning to know just why Andrew had been assassinated. kate-and-david-bagby-now-pdf 2/27 Downloaded from thesource2.metro.net on July 22, 2022 by guest the recent London bombings to Law and Order type crimes that make the news only to be replaced by another name.As such, more people are left with the aftermath of dealing with the violent death of a loved one. Dear Zachary was also a hit at Silverdocs, the AFI/Discovery Channel Documentary Film Festival over the weekend of June 21st & 22nd, where both screenings were once again met with standing ovations; Silverdocs nominated Dear Zachary for its inaugural Writers Guild of America Documentary Screenplay Award. David was a . (Photos of David and Kate with Zachary; Shirley being escorted from court). One of those forgettable pieces of solipsistic pseudo-art that is essentially just a scrapbook that was released to the public and then everyone just said it was good because no one wanted to hurt anyones feelings. T.J. and his girlfriend went to bed. Nearly 2 decades after the murder of a physician and his son a legacy ', KATE: (Audio recording) Yeah. He had returned to the US and had discovered a passion for family practice, where his love for people--and theirs for him--seemed as natural, as comfortable as the quiet town in Pennsylvania in which he'd chosen to live. Mr. SHEARS: Mm, yeah. People in the audience were literally weeping during the post-screening Q&A." One for such a wonderful young man that you raised. MORRISON: When another of Andrew's best friends, Kurt Kuenne, heard about the murder, he also went into a tailspin. -, "Some of the week's biggest flicks aren't at Sundancefilmmakers have praised Slamdance film. This film wasn't made to win awards, or, for that matter, even be criticized. Turner - the son of Andrew Bagby whom she gave birth to after Bagby's death. For the Bagbys, shock might have, (Photo of David and Zachary; photo of Kate and Zachary; Shirley being escorted, from court; court documents; court exterior; court documents; Kate and David), KATE: I'd sat in the back of the room while Judge Green said to her, `I'm so, sorry, Dr. Turner, your life is on hold, and I know the law is slow.' Mr. SIMPSON: Andrew, you know you can do a lot better. She was deranged. She was, pregnant, and the baby was Andrew's. KATE: And she went over in the corner crying, and I gave him back. 'Nothing to lose' | Gilroy Dispatch | Gilroy, San Martin, CA What do you want it Mr. BAGBY: Very seriously. September 28, 2008: with a supervisor, and we had to be searched. (Photo of Shirley, Kate and Zachary; photo of Shirley, David and Zachary; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Well, I just want your word that I'm going to, know where he's at, like any babysitter, you know, if you're going to take him, anywhere, just say, `Shirley, we're going to run out and do this. August 5, 2008: Add a bio, trivia, and more. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Are you sure? GARDNER: (Audio recording) Is this Dr. Turner? Some of, those frames even at the dollar stores will say--there'll be little sayings on, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) if you want to say `Mommy and Daddy' on a. frame and stick a picture of me and Andrew in it, I don't know. Blu-Ray | DVD, BLU-RAY Authorities later determined his former lover Dr. Shirley Turner,. MORRISON: Life for Andrew Bagby was good. They are simply good people. So we called, and he came over and told us that Zachary and Shirley were. If you didnt realize the importance of that, Kuenne mutes the film to let you process it. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I know you don't want to, you don't intend to. "We had to do something.. I lay in--laid there in bed a couple of times and thought, If I just kill her, Zachary will be safe. Kate says everything seemed to be going smoothly, until here. . MORRISON: But was that what you assumed had happened? December 15, 2009: David and Kate Bagby moved to St. John's. They forged a relationship with the woman they believed killed their son so they could see Zachary, their only grandchild. Family and friends go to extraordinary lengths to honor a legacy of a young man whose trust led to tragedy. His father says, I kissed him and held him. This is the first example in this story of someone seeing something bad coming but not being able to stop it. . He couldve introduced his friends death any way he wanted, and he went with this, with a kid who can barely pronounce the word killed asking why one of daddys friends has ended up that way. Kate to keep up their end of that bargain. in honor of his beloved friend Andrew, and then for Andrew's son, Zachary. They also have Andrews friends, like Kuenne, who remain in their current lives and with whom they can talk about Andrew. Mr. BAGBY: Oh, this ranks right up there. I didn't even know why I was going, other than Mom didn't want. One of the first to meet Zachary was, (Photo of Zachary Turner; wedding dance; photo of Shirley and Zachary; photo. Zachary, how's our baby today? But how? I said, `When do you think you'll be done?' Well never understand how anybody can ignore the fact that murderers are dangerous, he said. We had to pack up Zachary, Mr. BAGBY: We just climbed right back upstairs and went to bed and melted. Former Assistant Pastor at Jackson Community Church. David Bagby David Russell Bagby, 64, of Statesville, passed away Wednesday, Jan. 5, 2022. We'll keep this website updated as to their progress when there is news. Because this is foreshadowing. It's pretty easy to analyze what the, options are. On Nov. 5, Kate, who is originally from England, pictures Turner sitting on top of a Guy Fawkes bonfire and her family all around it with fireworks. It's great. Any reference to Turner as a flight risk, for instance, is accompanied by birdsong and pictures of flying pigeons. I had a husband I loved. I mean, the best man is really the groom. don't have these meltdowns and emotional scenes. We couldnt actually believe shed (harm Zachary), but we consciously feared she could do that, he said. Mr. BAGBY: She just kept coming back, and coming back and coming back. Mr. KUENNE: (Kate holding Zachary) Hello, bud. MORRISON: How did you find out what happened, how he had been killed? The Hornet was just back from patrolling . We were in the way, I guess, of her trying to go to school. After arriving home, she drove 900 miles back to Pennsylvania to kill the man who rejected her. Man #26: and for having the strength to make it through, Unidentified Man #27: With what you've been through, to still be, carrying on, still to hold your heads up and keep going and pushing forward is, (Kate and David; photo of David and Kate), Unidentified Woman #13: I think God put some people down on Earth, Mr. A. BAGBY: (Wedding video) We're brothers, and I love you. MORRISON: Kurt and Andrew grew up together in Northern California, where the fledgling director gave Andrew starring roles in some of his earliest ventures. We did have him for a little while, she said. MORRISON: You didn't seriously think of--I mean, you talk about this plan Mr. BAGBY: Absolutely. Kathryn Schulz, reviewing Making a Murderer recently inThe New Yorker, described howtrue-crime projects can allow for bias to masquerade as objectivity and for people (particularly victims and their families) to be reduced to plot points. Then, upon. A judge called Andrews murder a vicious crime, but did not consider Turner a risk to others. MORRISON: Coming up, a knock at the door, and then the news. MORRISON: I never know what to think about these feelings that people get. She pushed it back in and cried some more. Far from experiencing the satisfaction of cracking a mystery, the viewer is likely to come away with a feeling of stymied sickness, of hitting the brick wall of a world gone wronga feeling which must be closer to the lived reality of violent tragedy. So he came straight for me. MORRISON: After you found out about Andrew's death, the impulse just ended. To revisit this article, select My Account, thenView saved stories, To revisit this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. "Go into this cold and be prepared for a life-changing experience. You can't tell them this over the phone. Kuenne finished his documentary and dedicated it to the memories of both Bagby and Zachary. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. They might as well have sent a taxi to her to help take him out and drown him. The Bagbys attended the hearing, of course, and, could not quite believe their ears when they heard the judge's ruling. MORRISON: When you did find out that she was pregnant, what was your thought? Amending Canada's bail code was my goal in releasing "Dear Zachary" publicly; it is my pleasure to announce that goal is now a reality. MORRISON: Was it reasonable for the court to trust her? MORRISON: But she was allowed to go back to Newfoundland? I dont know how else to say it except they are grown-ups: they are funny, but serious; playful, but organized. You dont get over it. January 15, 2008: It also took 3rd place in the National Headliner Awards for Best Documentary of 2008, given by the Press Club of Atlantic City. ), DEAR ZACHARY 10TH ANNIVERSARY HD REMASTERED EDITIONNOW AVAILABLE ON BLU-RAY, DVD, and DIGITAL, For the film's 10th anniversary, Kurt Kuenne remastered "Dear Zachary", its epilogue, and its bonus features for HD, converting the original standard definition elements to HD shot-by-shot, while remixing the film in 5.1 surround, so that it now looks and sounds as originally intended on today's platforms. Because this is where you need it. MP Andrews was inspired to create Bill C-464 after seeing Dear Zachary for the first time in March; he and Senator Tommy Banks distributed DVDs of Dear Zachary to every member of the House of Commons for their review immediately following the December 4th discussion. Its best to watch Kuennes documentary without too much background, but the basic setup is this: On November 6, 2001, Andrew Bagbys body was found, shot five times, in a park near Latrobe, Pennsylvania, where Bagby lived. MORRISON: And go she did, back to Newfoundland, Canada. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Then I can't consent to more time right now. The Best Man - NBC News Mr. SHEARS: It seemed like it to me, yeah. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I understand that. Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Walmart, DIGITAL "One of the best documentaries I have ever seen in my entire life a film that will rock you to your core. Unidentified Man #25: I love them very much. Mr. DAVID BAGBY: I threw the phone at the desk, and I jumped up and just screamed, `No! And if they don't charge her, they had no way to restrict her travel. (A number of his male friends say that they asked, or would have asked, him to be their best man.) Dr. ANDREW BAGBY: (Wedding videotape) Best man is a little bit of a poor title for these things. And I prayed to God to be looking after him. Bill C-464 was introduced in the House of Commons on October 22, 2009, passed the House of Commons unanimously on March 22nd of this year and passed the Senate of Canada last Thursday, December 9th, where it was sponsored by Senator Tommy Banks of Alberta. Turner shot Bagby two days after he broke up with her at a Pennsylvania airport as she was set to fly back to Iowa. Much of this DATELINE report incorporates material from Kurt's documentary, as well as something else: the childhood films he made as he taught himself his craft. And I saw that night her malignancy. Kurt Kuenne's acclaimed orchestral score for "Dear Zachary", nominated for Best Documentary Score of 2008 by the International Film Music Critics Association, is now available on CD and for digital download. He was like, `Eh, mm.' But that didn't erase their unease, or a remarkable feeling, (Shirley and Zachary at birthday party; David), Mr. BAGBY: I considered killing her myself, seriously considered it. MORRISON: Shirley Turner, also a doctor in training, was 12 years older than Andrew, twice divorced, a mother of three. Mr. BAGBY: What are you going to say that will MORRISON: And find something she did, going so far as telling, them that they had some anger issues which needed to be addressed by a, (Photo of Shirley; photo of Kate and David), Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) There has been, I guess, a lot of, uncomfortable feeling on both our parts. What kind of headfuck must that be? ', KATE: He's so loved. KATE: I knew exactly what my son looked at before he died. That gave her a chance to do something useful for some people who needed it, said David. If you were to dream up the perfect set of parents, it would be Kate and David Bagby. I said, `This woman was in town. David remembers uttering, "It's really him," and recalls how the two cried over the body, tears falling on to Andrew's face. The Bagbys went to the morgue to identify their bodies. MORRISON: What did you think when you heard that? Mr. SIMPSON: And he said, `I'm going to need to catch up with you, and we're going to have to do some serious talking.' would be the difference if one person weren't alive? A Kate Bagby is an Advisory Member at Mothers Against Murder based in Los Altos, California. It brings its own special brand of. In Los Angeles - August 22-28 at the Arclight Hollywood, 6360 Sunset Blvd. The film is by the phenomenal writer, director and composer Kurt Kuenne. MORRISON: The sea at midnight was endless black. Mr. SHEARS: When we woke up in the morning, realized they weren't there. If it looks like she's likely to go back, how is she going to behave? And you just bought the gun, right? The New Yorker may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. She was here.' In initial questioning, Turner claimed to have been home sick in Iowa when Bagby was shot, but cell-phone records showed her placing calls along the thousand-mile highway route between Council Bluffs and Latrobe in the days before and after the murder.