Jane Fonda came clean in an interview with Chris Wallace about her Hanoi Jane days and her failure as a mother. GRUMMETT: Don't worry about it, you know? Liberals in America's streets "protested" our victories and exulted in our defeats - thus, in patriots' eyes, giving the war a raison d'etre. Us veterans will never forget or forgive her posing on a North Viet anti-aircraft gun, regardless whatever else she may or may not have done. She has to be a murderess too. Aristide was an ENEMY of Communism, hence his downfall. Subsequently communist China was awarded a permanent seat on the U.N. Security Council, its most powerful chair. HANNITY: Is Jane Fonda really sorry or just trying to sell her brand new book? Screw you. He hadnt liked the story but at least was willing to discuss it. Content and Programming Copyright 2005 Fox News Network, L.L.C. [1] Cited on November 24, 2004. JANE FONDA: it was a mistake to go, I never wanted to go to any military installations. I mean, that's what you and I do with our wives when we say something that we shouldn't have said. Someone (I dont remember who) leads me toward the gun, and I sit down, still laughing, still applauding. Especially considering that the Republican Party has obviously now been captured by the same forces (the 'Illuminati', hehehe). I am going to let the extract stand as it is, containing just enough truth to be uncomfortable, I think. War materiel, shipped via the I spent many years its when I made coming home talking to American soldiers, who had been in Vietnam and the things they told me were heartbreaking. Its folklore, but folklore of a curiously evolved sort. MacArthur complained that his conduct of the war was compromised by spies within the U.S. government: "The enemy receives my (Pentagon) directives before I do". Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure. And four months later, the bombing stopped of the dikes. Fonda consorted with the enemy and made propaganda broadcasts on their behalf. There's nothing like a historian 'cherry-picking' his citations or only presenting a partial 'truth' from his source. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. She went to tour the countrys That is not my place. Fonda hasapologized for the liars and hypocrites statement, which she said she made out of anger that the Nixon Administration was lying about the extent of the POW torture for propaganda purposes. [2] Peter Collier, The Fondas; A Hollywood Dynasty. . During her two-week stay, Fonda concluded that America was unjustly bombing farmland and areas far flung from military targets. JANE FONDA: Well, I didnt like it. Jane Fonda and the Vietnam War. Heres the picture that was used to shut shut down American plants, critics, and there were millions of them, called you a Hanoi Jane and said you were a traitor. This, probably more than anything, earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane.. Truman refused. CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. It was to these traditional Americans, alienated by the Sixties, that the email was targeted, playing on their hopes that finally, at long last, Jane Fonda would have to answer for her choices. Thank you, sir. She posed on an anti-aircraft gun used to shoot down our American pilots. Joe? His replacement, General Ridgway, said after the war: "The reason we didn't win is because I was under orders not to win". Greta Van Susteren -- who had been one of Ailes' most stalwart defenders -- left in early September 2016 after saying that Fox had "not felt like a home" for years. Due to actions and images some people consider unpatriotic or treasonous, she earned CHRIS WALLACE: So when you say it was a terrible mistake. It may be an old story, but being that she never stood trial for her actions still make her case an open book. She said:I have very few regrets. The POWs who were there have denied that this ever occurred. If it wasn't I must be missing something. Jane Fonda sparked outrage among war veterans when she was pictured sitting on an anti-aircraft gun in 1972 during the Vietnam War, earning her the nickname Hanoi Jane. She sided with the Viet Cong as revolutionary liberators. And she travelled to Hanoi at a time when North Vietnamese soldiers were killing Americans. They landed two months later on 7 May with the 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines. I hardly even think about where I am sitting. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Never. and booed people attending the event, according to the Frederick News-Post. Here are her comments: Many of our veterans still call her Hanoi Jane thanks to her radio broadcasts, which attempted to shame American troops. I mean Alan, this woman was totally caught up in the age of the '60s, the rhetoric of the '60s, and quite frankly I feel sorry for her, because she's not out of it. And it was a terrible mistake because of the image that it showed, which was not at all what the reality was. It was my mistake and I have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it.. As Pioneer Rap Trio Suffers Tragic Loss, Long-Awaited Back Catalog is Finally Released, Bret Baiers Interview With FBI Director Shows What A Joke It Is to Pose Him As Foxs Real Journalism Successor to Chris Wallace, Jimmy Kimmel Calls Tucker Carlson Putins Favorite Little Nesting Doll After He Accused Kimmel of Using Foreign Gov. SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Jane Fonda says she is sorry for some of her actions during the Vietnam War. The POWs are beaten. All rights reserved. She was dubbed "Hanoi Jane" after traveling to the Communist capital. (Later, after 58,152 American dead were just names on a wall, declassified US Navy logs revealed there had been no torpedo attack!). It never happened. The Nixon Justice Department poured over the transcripts of my broadcasts trying to find a way to put me on trial for treason but they could find none. Fonda addresses the media in December 1972 to protest U.S. military involvement in the Vietnam War. I mean, the fact is, there's no statute on treason, by the way. Fonda told the audience that their protests saddened her. Bates. In 1972, actress Jane Fonda traveled to North Vietnam on an anti-war mission. Mr. Nolan wrote something that helped me better understand the fury of this sort of reaction. Oh, my God. Here is my best, honest recollection of what took place. Here it is. mode: 'thumbnails-b', After all, she is an American; surely shell carry the message home to the families that their husband or son is alive. Here's the record, number one: you've got the photo on the anti-aircraft gun that you add on during the transition. quote: Fonda was a political activist in the counterculture era during the After all, she is an American; surely shell carry the message home to the families that their husband or son is alive. Megyn Kelly lit into Jane Fonda on Monday, highlighting the behavior that earned the actress the nickname Hanoi Jane while defending the time last fall when she questioned Fonda about plastic surgery. On the basis of those meetings alone, she proclaimed that American POW's weren't being mistreated, and that any who said they were mistreated werte either liars, or were simply experiencing punishment for their racist treatment and attitude towards their Vietnamese captors. Was Jane Fonda's sitting on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun that was used to shoot at and kill Americans, and launching an anti-American PR campaign with the North Vietnamese giving aid and comfort? There's no statute of limitations on it. Thus, the U.S.A. deliberately betrayed its former ally Chiang Kai-Shek and gave mainland China to communism. re: Jane Fonda visiting BR this weekend Posted on 3/3/23 at 9:43 am to Chipand2Putts. Which is precisely why U.S. liberals so vehemently protested U.S. involvement - and that is the only reason - we were destroying their comrades the communists. The one story that was true never touched the question of whether or not she directly participated in war crimes. Fonda said that whileshe may have been tricked into taking the picture, The buck stops here. In 1972, Fonda toured North Vietnam, where she spoke against U.S. military policy in the country. If I was used, I allowed it to happen. I have great, great children, talented, smart, and I just didnt know how to do it. Richard Morgan, If they did, can I really blame them? In another she was looking into the She called the POW's liars. 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Market data provided by Factset. I'm sorry I hurt you, Alan, and I hope you can forgive me." This story hearkens to a real visit to North Vietnam by Jane Fonda in July of 1972, but the stories about betraying POWs is not true. The Fonda trip became unforgettable because it infuriated Americans, especially Americans in uniform, many of whom still regard her as a traitor. Her name was Jane Fonda. Its folklore, but folklore of a curiously evolved sort. Jane Fondas first impression of Americas involvement in Vietnam was that it was a just cause. WebDaughter of legendary Henry Fonda, actress, and activist was one of the most outspoken people against the Vietnam War at the age of 34. The media heaped calumny on U.S. military leadership; presented biased, horrifying scenes depicting "the wanton killing of Vietnamese civilians", and the "degeneracy" of our fighting men and women. I should have been clearer that my anger back then was at the Nixon Administration. It wasnt firing at the time, and Fonda said in 2011 she hardly even thought about where I was sitting and that itis possible that it was a set up, that the Vietnamese had it all planned.. I agree with TheWrap's Terms of Service and Privacy Policy and provide my consent to receive marketing communications from them. A new HBO documentary on Fondas life, Jane Fonda in Five Acts, explores the fallout for the actress, who is now 80. To license content, please contact licenses [at] americanheritage.com. Yeah, said my stepdaughter, Jill, when I told her about this. ED GRUMMETT, USMC: The night before we made the landing at Chu Yuan (ph) we were listening to Hanoi Hannah and how they were going to annihilate us on the beach. "Claim: POWs were beaten for refusing to cooperate or meet with Fonda during her visit. If a prisoner tried to escape, it is quite understandable that he would probably be beaten and tortured.. I stand by the article as it was written. Heres Kellys take on what she called Fondas poor me routine. Finally the brainwashed, confused, exhausted American public forced our government to surrender. "Happening Now" anchor Jenna Lee announced that she was leaving the Fox Newsafter working there for 10 years. All were hired by Roger Ailes, the former network boss who exited in August 2016 amid a sexual harassment scandal. "STRATAGEMS of DEFEAT AND NO-WIN WARS She now hosts "New Day" on CNN. She went to tour the countrys dike system, which was rumored to have been intentionally bombed by American forces something the U.S. government to this day forcefully denies. container: 'taboola-right-rail-thumbnails', He was Americas most famous pediatrician. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. Its more than being a traitor; millions of Americans felt treasonous during that war. Almost all the messages said we had no business writing about Fonda because she was a traitor. We once published an admiring profile of Benedict Arnoldwhose actions did the nation real damage in a way Fondas fulminations never couldand nobody made a peep. Fonda has refused to tell her side of the story to historians investigating her role, purportedly because she was saving her story for her own memoirs, which are expected to be published soon. I find that intolerable.. Respected online resources such as Snopes, Truth Miners, and Urban Legends have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims. COLMES: Many of us forgive many of us forgive George W. Bush (search) for being young and irresponsible, and maybe we can also forgive Jane Fonda. Youre gonna come through it, okay. OLIVER NORTH, HOST, "WAR STORIES": Actually, she's not really apologizing. Her attackers renewed an old strike against the image of an actress who grew up as the daughter of the All-American Henry Fonda, yet became synonymous with the various rebellions of the Sixties. You know, we can we can scare her, and boy did they try? And the question I have is 50 years later, how do you look back on that particular chapter? CHRIS WALLACE: When you got that nickname Hanoi Jane, how did you feel at the time? Kelly attacked Fondas Vietnam War history to defend questions about plastic surgery. And therein lies the difference. ( New York: G.P. Even so, the main focus of my essay was whether Jane Fonda participated in war crimes, not whether she was morally culpable for her part as an apologist for the mistreatment of POW's (she was). The cover called her Ms. In July of 1972, she made two trips to Hanoi which earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane. "Flashpoint Vietnam," the real story about the road to the war. As in Korea, communist spies within the U.S. government released vital information to the enemy. During the visit she posed for several pictures. For 70 years, American Heritage has been the leading magazine of U.S. history, politics, and culture. We now see a pattern of sedition/treason. Dave By July 1972, when Fonda accepted an invitation to visit North Vietnam, America had been at war overseas and with itself for years. Only the bankers know. officers, toward the Chinese border amid cries of protest from Wall Street which feared war with "our trading partner" Red China. She and actor Donald Sutherland started an anti-USO troupe to counter Bob Hopes famous shows for the troops. Even so, I'm going to keep an eye open to purchase one of the urinal mats with her photograph depicted upon it. Again the secret policy of the financiers was: "containment of communism" while disallowing an American victory. Heres how we saw the article we ran: It is a survey of the singular career of a woman who both drove and was driven by many of the largest social concerns of her era, and who came to embody some of them. And you know, maybe I was set up but I was an adult, its Im gonna take responsibility for it. She said: I have very few regrets. I never asked pilots to desert. You know, I have an organization in Georgia that deals with adolescents, and Ive studied parenting. NORTH: And mine too, brother, even after 37 years. And I was I was like a limp noodle what I had experienced and what I had seen, I just I wasnt able to resist, they said were gonna take you out here today. NORTH: Well, all I did was present the facts. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh. Its something very like the worst sort of lovers betrayal, the deep wound that time itself often is powerless to heal. She said in a 1973 interview elaborating on the hypocrites and liars statement that it would be understandable for the North Vietnamese to torture POWs who tried to escape. Once U.S. forces were committed in large numbers the U.S. federal government, as in Korea, prohibited them from attacking specified enemy sanctuaries (staging areas) into which the communists retreated, regrouped, re-armed and launched renewed attacks. But she maintains she was not a traitor by speaking out against the war or trying to turn soldiers against it, because she still believesthe U.S. government was lying to them. Watch above via HBO Max and CNNs Whos Talking to Chris Wallace. I mean, the reality is, there were 24,000 American troops on the ground in South Vietnam. How Jane Fondas 1972 trip to North Vietnam earned her the nickname Hanoi Jane, The 27 best things to do in D.C. this weekend and next week, Tom Wilson gives Capitals a boost on an otherwise painful night in Anaheim, Corey Dickerson aims to lead and have a bounce-back year with Nats. Those words were written by Michael Benge, a civilian advisor captured by the Viet Cong in 1968 and held as a POW for 5 years. Manywere there to protest the Vietnam War. YOU'VE REACHED YOUR MONTHLY ARTICLE LIMIT. In 2015, about 50 veterans stood outside theWeinberg Center for the Arts in Frederick, Md., to protest Fondas appearance there. Copyright 1949-2022 American Heritage Publishing Co. All Rights Reserved. It was my mistake, and I have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it. Thats what made me laugh. JANE FONDA: I know what Im doing. Considering the admonition about Caesar's wife, perhaps HNN should remove you as an intern. Perhaps most dramatically, in March 1973, the Maryland state legislature held a hearing to have Fonda and her films barred from the state. I dug in my heels. However, when my credibility is challenged, I will respond. Jane Fonda remains unforgiven. They realized that the war was wrong, that we werent wanted there. Over the years, as Fonda reinvented herself as a fitness maven and again a movie star, she apologized many times for the antiaircraft gunphoto. Please, you cant let them be published. It was the last day of my two week time there. Dr. Rockefeller certainly did not defend Communism as a "Jewish" system, since it is the Hebrew Bible that was the basis of our Common Law, and hence much of our Constitutional Order. Please try again later. In July 1972, during the waning days of U.S. military involvement in Vietnam, actress Jane Fonda incurred the enmity of untold thousands of Vietnam veterans and their families (as well as service members for generations to come) when she arrived in Hanoi, North Vietnam, and began a two-week tour of the country. So I ask, should she have been put on trial for treason? "Hanoi Run" from USSR to Viet Nam, was produced in Russian plants that had been built by American companies and financed by the Federal Reserve System. I suppose that since I am never really planned to be an Intern next semester (not in a full time sense, save as a researcher), and since my term is essentially over, I can join the conversation as Joe Public. But newly discovered tapes tell a very, very different story. Heres how we saw the article we ran: It is a survey of the singular career of a woman who both drove and was driven by many of the largest social concerns of her era, and who came to embody some of them. WebFind many great new & used options and get the best deals for Jane Fonda: Prime Time - Walk Out (DVD, 2010) at the best online prices at eBay! WebNevertheless, there are Vietnam veterans out there who served in the war zone before 1969 who are convinced that Jane Fonda was in cahoots with the Commies during their own So did Joan Baez and William Sloane Coffin, Noam Chomsky and Pete Seeger, Rennie Davis and Judy Collins. Joining us now is the host of "War Stories," who fought in Vietnam, Colonel Oliver North is with us. As Jane Fonda promotes her new film, "Monster-in-Law", its up to all of us to let our children know about the specific activities she undertook during the Vietnam War. Nobody remembers, nobody cares. However, it was a bit too long, and Dr. Shenkman needed it shortened in the interest of time. I get up, and as I start to walk back to the car with the translator, the implication of what has just happened hits me. Del. Which goes to reinforce the old adage that no one is truly a waste of skin. Four die; one, Col. Larry Carrigan, survivesjust barely, but it is he who tells about the incident. Fonda shakes the last hand, then turns to the officer and gives him the fistful of messages. I remember one retired lieutenant colonel describing a conversation he had with an angry trooper about the treasonous behavior of Jane Fonda in the midst of the 1968 Tet Offensive. Switch to the dark mode that's kinder on your eyes at night time. On this weeks edition of HBO Max and CNNs Whos Talking to Chris Wallace, the host covered much of that territory, including that 1972 visit. Her book just may not make the bestseller Also Read: 'Jane Fonda in Five Acts' Film Review: Doc Explores the Many Lives of the Actress-Activist, She posed on an antiaircraft gun used to shoot down our American pilots. True, by Fondas admission. He collects a group of American POWs from their septic dungeons, cleans them up, and has them mustered on parade to show his guest how well his embattled nation treats its prisoners. The actual allegation took the form of an email citing the alleged experiences of a number of Viet Nam War veterans at the hands of Jane Fonda. On campus, she was pushing her movement to turn U.S. soldiers into pacifists. February 25, 2023 / Jack Marshall. It has simply been repeated over and over again, without proof, and duplicated on a number of websites. CHRIS WALLACE: Who the people in the Nixon administration? It is always distressing to find American citizens who benefit from the protection and assistance of this government lending their voice in any way to governments such as the Democratic Republic of Vietnam distressing indeed, said State Department spokesman Charles W. Bray, according to a July 1972 Reuters story. Fonda was accused of engaging in war crimes on behalf of the North Vietnamese. They called it FTA, which they said stood for Free the Army, but it was also a not-so-subtle nod to the expression f the Army.. Legal Statement. I wanted to tell them what I was seeing as an American on the ground there. In fact, when the Tet Offensive broke, Jane Fonda was the featured pinup girl in that months issue of Leatherneck , the official publication of the Marines.. MacArthur soon realized he was expected to win battles but lose the war. But because of the nature of Vietnam, McNamara said to me, if wed known what we know now it would have we should not have gone out. Johnson solemnly announced that "Communist aggression must be stopped as a threat to American security!" Some lawmakers calledher actions treason. www.DanandGEnterprises.com It never happened. ET!. Nevertheless, there are Vietnam veterans out there who served in the war zone before 1969 who are convinced that Jane Fonda was in cahoots with the Commies during their own tours. I am trying to show up now.. The cameras flash. I appealed to them to please consider what you are doing. She so symbolized the divided nation, hawks arrayed against her and doves siding with her, that she became a personal target, most recently with allegations about personal involvement in the mistreatment of POWs. Jane Fonda tested the limits of patriotic dissent. Kelly responded with a cannon by bringing up the time Fonda posed on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun. "Because of this," the narrative continues, "I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped." HANNITY: That's quite often in my case, by the way. I know what its supposed to be now. Fonda was lambasted for her trip to North Vietnam in 1972 during the Vietnam War. NORTH: The real story about Vietnam. One presumably claimed to have been struck by her, while another claimed to have had his confidence betrayed to his Communist captors. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it.